PCT dosing after my first cycle

minnie_mullet3.63RPOriginal post

7d ago

Just finished my first 12-week cycle. I started at 300 mg test / 300 mg primo, ran that for a month then bumped to 450/450. I was planning PCT as 40 mg Nolva + 50 mg Clomid daily for two weeks, then 20 mg Nolva + 25 mg Clomid daily for the next two weeks. Does that seem reasonable, or since this was a relatively mild cycle could I skip the Clomid and run just Nolva? Any experiences or advice welcome.

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jessicaj6.1RP

4d ago

Three years of lifting, first cycle is almost a gram with test/primo—wow. Show a physique pic for funsies.

sailorash13.17RP

4d ago

I’m just here for constructive help and real experience, not passive snark. If you have actual insight on my PCT question, I’m open to it.

tradercoast2.65RP

4d ago

Did you have bloods taken before and during the cycle? Any photos from before/after? Also, FYI, I’m one of the more experienced people here and I’ll be blunt.

darkrunner9.47RP

4d ago

I did pre-cycle and mid-cycle labs. Only thing a bit off mid-cycle was HDL/LDL, which I adjusted for. I’m waiting until after PCT for post-cycle labs. This wasn’t some impulse move—I spent close to a year reading up on compounds, protocols and precautions. I tried to be as health-conscious as possible and not waste the run. So far it’s gone very well.

makertinker273.3RP

4d ago

You come off pretty cocky, not gonna lie.

karener10.38RP

4d ago

How am I coming off that way? I’m asking for advice and sharing my experience, and then I get comments that don’t actually answer my question. Not trying to be cocky.

staticbrawn6.75RP

4d ago

What was your estradiol after that primo-heavy run? You should have labs right after the cycle; waiting until after PCT to test is risky—you don’t know if something got messed up.

patricko4.31RP

4d ago

You really put on 13 lb of muscle in 12 weeks?

hungryx5.15RP

4d ago

I thought you get post-cycle labs to confirm PCT was effective and you’ve returned to normal, while mid-cycle bloods let you spot problems early and adjust. My E2 was 31 pre-cycle, 21 mid-cycle—on the low end but still in range, and I had no low-estrogen symptoms.

fox9612.83RP

4d ago

And that 1:1 test/primo mix… I’d bet your E2 was in the single digits.

radio_coast2.56RP

4d ago

According to multiple InBody scans during the cycle, yes. Assuming the machine is accurate—can’t be 100% sure, but that’s what I have to go by. They claim good accuracy.

traderowl2.11RP

4d ago

I was wondering the same… you said E2 was 21 with that ratio. That seems unlikely to me, but I could be wrong.

kenneth_483.05RP

4d ago

Nope—lowest it went was 21. On the low end but still in range and no symptoms.

ridgedusty12.37RP

4d ago

I’m not making things up. I’m here asking for others’ experience and help. I wouldn’t benefit from lying when I want input.

carolynr8313.54RP

4d ago

Alright, if it worked for you… you sure the labs are legit?

silver2.04RP

4d ago

Those machines count extra water as lean body mass. Intramuscular water and higher glycogen from a gram+ of gear will show up as increased LBM—DEXA does the same. InBody is unreliable for absolute numbers, but you can use it to compare relative changes between scans.

sunday_pilot12.31RP

4d ago

I’m too broke to even consider primo. Some of these are very first-world problems.

silvero4.36RP

4d ago

I’m not accusing you of lying—just saying that with low test and high primo, that E2 result is unusual. Not impossible, just unlikely.

monday7.48RP

4d ago

The E2 value? I used a reputable lab and specifically ordered the sensitive E2 assay to be accurate. I didn’t experience low libido, mood issues, or other low-E2 signs, so I’m confident it’s valid.