E2 levels during a cycle | Community Forum

taverns5.94RPOriginal post

1mo ago

I'm gearing up for my first cycle with 250 mg of Testosterone and 200 mg of Nandrolone over 10 weeks. I'm 37 and have been training for more than 18 years. From what I've gathered, there are two approaches to using Arimidex to manage E2 levels: either as a preventative measure (0.25 every other day) or starting from week five based on blood test results. My question is, how can I determine if I need to start taking Arimidex? At what point does my E2 level need to double, triple, or go up tenfold? Right now, my E2 is at 25. I've heard that if I wait until high E2 symptoms appear to start taking it, it might be too late. Also, should I use Arimidex only during the cycle and stop at the beginning of PCT? My PCT will include Clomid and Nolva. Thanks!

10 replies

patricia_7616.95RP

25d ago

"Too high" is subjective. Different people feel better at various levels. To find what works for you, it's essential to get blood work. Your levels will probably be within the "normal" range, but you need to compare how you feel with your test results. Consistent testing is key; I recommend doing it monthly, which also helps with your last question—keeping an AI during PCT isn’t a one-size-fits-all rule, but some individuals may need it. It all depends on blood work.

brokerpilot307115.59RP

25d ago

I prefer my levels around 90-100. The idea that it’s too late to act once you feel high E2 symptoms isn't accurate. Anastrozole can rapidly lower your E2 levels. Taking 0.25mg of Anastrozole every other day with just 250mg of testosterone per week will likely drop your estrogen significantly. Wait for your blood tests before starting an AI. If you feel good, don’t stress over the numbers. And remember, estrogen is anabolic.

taverns5.94RP

25d ago

So, if I get this right, there’s no universal guideline on what E2 level should prompt starting an AI? Even blood tests are just a reference and should be considered alongside how I feel? I know 250mg testosterone a week isn't a huge amount (compared to what I see others doing), but I think it should be sufficient for a first cycle. And of course, I want to avoid unnecessarily crashing my E2 by taking an AI too soon.

riderflex4711.28RP

23d ago

Your E2 is only considered "too high" if you're having symptoms. I usually leave mine alone unless it affects me. Get your blood work done, evaluate it in relation to how you feel, and proceed based on that.

brokerpilot307115.59RP

23d ago

Yes, that's correct. The amount of 250 mg of testosterone weekly is considerable.

lucky_south19.26RP

23d ago

I think it's a bad idea for a first cycle to include that combo. Just stick with testosterone. Spend a few hours researching to make sure you’re fully prepared. Understand PCT, blood work, and the whole process.

taverns5.94RP

23d ago

Why is it a bad choice? Is it because of the deca? Even at such a low dose? Honestly, my main goal isn’t to bulk up or cut down. I've trained for over 18 years and maintain a body fat percentage of around 6-8% year-round. I'm quite satisfied with my natural appearance. However, after all these years, I occasionally experience joint and tendon pain, especially as I'm recovering from a minor knee injury. So, I chose deca primarily to alleviate pain and enhance recovery, considering it's often used medically after joint surgeries and some friends have had good results with it for recovery too.

broker_fixer90119.06RP

23d ago

Don't stress about managing high E2 unless you're actually experiencing symptoms. I'm not going to list those signs, as you should already know them if you're concerned. Focus on treating the symptoms rather than the numbers. Personally, I prefer to keep my E2 levels higher and only address it if necessary; otherwise, I'm fine with it as is.

lucky_south19.26RP

23d ago

But you're asking advice from someone with 30 years of experience. Why are you questioning it?

redrainy24.42RP

23d ago

Exactly. Just testosterone for your first cycle and monitor your response, keeping estrogen management on standby based on symptoms and lab results.