Blood work before, during and after Enclomiphene

peterh4.62RPOriginal post

7d ago

I've been off all kinds of anabolics since my early 20s. I eventually backed off the heavy cycles and ran a self-prescribed TRT into my early 30s. I tried to stop completely multiple times but my testosterone always tanks. Oddly I never had sexual dysfunction from low T, but I did suffer from low energy and a bunch of other symptoms. In 2023 I had a cardiac arrest and was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. After that I couldn't be on any form of testosterone. My levels crash below 200. I didn't like clomid because of the side effects, so I learned about enclomiphene and gave it a shot — the change was dramatic. My total T more than doubled and LH/FSH went way up. My lab results (linked) show before, during and after. It's been over a month since my last dose — I was taking 25 mg daily. Training natural has been rough after being used to enhanced; recovery isn't as fast and energy/strength aren't anywhere near what they were. Thoughts on where my testosterone sits now and whether it should be higher than it is?

9 replies

makernorth9.3RP

3d ago

When I was on enclomiphene my total T got over 400 (around 480 after two months) and estradiol only rose slightly to 42. I later switched to full TRT+ and my levels hit about 1400 on 200 mg per week.

peterh4.62RP

3d ago

How did you feel at about 480 total T? How were your workouts and recovery then?

makernorth9.3RP

3d ago

I felt great — noticeably more energy and strength compared to not being on it. But compared to full TRT, it's in a different league.

ronalds11.94RP

3d ago

Quick question: Why is testosterone off the table after your heart attack but enclomiphene is considered OK? Testosterone is endogenous — wouldn't a low-dose TRT be "safer"? You're not chasing very high levels anymore, right?

peterh4.62RP

3d ago

I tried TRT twice at 200 mg, 100 mg and even 50 mg weekly and kept getting heart-related side effects. I was diagnosed with congestive heart failure after the heart attack; they said the CHF is the issue now. The doctors told me years of steroid use likely caused the congestive heart failure.

ronalds11.94RP

3d ago

Good info, thanks for sharing. I would've suggested microdosing to 50 mg a week split daily to hit similar numbers, but that's irrelevant if it keeps aggravating your heart. I don't know much about enclomiphene's side effects, but your numbers look reasonable for focusing on health.

dustystack2.82RP

3d ago

Could it be related to clogged arteries or plaque? If that's the case, nattokinase is something people sometimes look into for plaque and clogged arteries.

peterh4.62RP

3d ago

My priority now is health and longevity.

peterh4.62RP

3d ago

It's not clogged arteries. It's related, but my ejection fraction was down to 5%. With standard meds it's recovered to around 55%.